sleepybear- You mean just like the way you beat and poison your kids as “therapy” so they`ll act more “normal” and you can show them off at the country club, all the while repeatedly ignoring their legitimate needs and attempts at communication, because a porn star/reality whore and her increasingly untalented husband told you to in this week`s People? Fuck you.
Why else would sleepybear say she/he wanted to beat Angel, unless they disagreed with the pro-acceptance message in her status because they believe the most important thing to do to an autistic is to “cure” us to make us more “normal”
And yes, Gary agrees with her, he`s just digging us into a hole.
Mackadal, there is nothing wrong with wanting your child to be mentally healthy. Autistic people, and especially those with severe autism, face a litany of hardships and issues. Society as it is right now is not built to allow autistic people to be successful at much even if they are capable of plenty. The stress and pain of caring for an autistic person is an incredibly large burden on families. Nonverbal autistic people can go months or even years with undiagnosed pain or illness because they cannot describe what they are experiencing. There can also be an enormous level of stress and anxiety in both the families of autistic people and in autistic people themselves.
I’m assuming that you have Asperger’s, since you identify yourself as part of the autism community. Asperger’s is not the same thing as Autism. It’s just on the spectrum. You are not qualified to speak for Autistic people just because you have Asperger’s.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting your child to have access to as many options, experiences, and capabilities throughout life as they possibly can.
That is just amazing when he/she spelled break wrong again when he/she tried to correct it soz! Classic! Wait… What if the point of that group is infact “why do boys brake our hearts?”? That would be original.
glueyourfingers, YOU are not qualified to speak for autistic people as a neurotypical. If there were a “cure” for autism, the computer you`re writing on would not have been built or designed. Society is the problem. SO FIX SOCIETY.
Mackdal, that is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. You don’t have to be a part of a group to speak for their benefit. I’m not Haitian, but I can say we should try to help them out now. I’m not blind, but I can say we should try to fix blindness. I have ASD, and I do think that we need to find a way to prevent or cure the people who are unable to speak, take care of themselves, and contribute nothing to society other than to be a burden and heartache on their friends and family. There is a hell of a lot more to autism then you crazy internet people.
Also, autistics are not responsible for computers or every technological advance humans have made. That might be the most rediculous claim I’ve ever seen made regarding autism. Perhaps you should research the history or computers prior to the late 1970s. Even if an autistic guy helped develop computers, that does not make them responsible for the entire industry, and surely you cannot deny the fact that what you slander as NTs were also involved. I am sure there were even blind and deaf people who helped invent computers, and I sure as hell think we should be trying to cure that. Were the Wright brothers ASD or NT? Would we have put a man on the moon if we had a cured autism? Would the Chinese have invented gunpowerder if we didn’t have autism?
In summary, you are a rahtard.
I am not a “neurotypical”. You know nothing about me. You don’t know my age, my gender, or even my location. How the hell do you know what mental disorders I do and don’t have? For your information, I happen to have several mental disorders that impact my daily life hugely. They have definitely molded my personality and I still think it’s vital to find a cure or some sort of more effective treatment for them.
I also have close ties to the deaf community where a similar debate is going on about cochlear implants, which allow deaf people as young as toddler-aged with certain types of deafness to hear. Some people don’t like this idea because they feel there is nothing “wrong” with their child. Of course there is nothing wrong with a deaf child, but why not give them every opportunity that you can? There’s nothing wrong with someone having cancer either. There’s nothing wrong with having a goiter. There’s nothing wrong with having AIDS. There’s nothing wrong with having schizophrenia. Should we just not treat them, then?
Never anywhere in my post did I mention the word “cure”. Most genetic mental disorders cannot be cured. I am talking about treatment and prevention. But even if there were a way to cure autism, I would find that a positive thing. Saying that there is no cure and therefore we shouldn’t look for one is akin to saying “screw AIDS sufferers, there’s no cure so let’s not even try to look for one.”
glueyourfingers- since when did autism = a fatal disease (such as cancer or AIDS like you mentioned)?
that’s insulting to everyone with autism, cancer, or AIDS. Maybe you should follow your own advice and glue your own fingers instead of trying to speak for everyone else and decide what is right.
also the correct terminology is people with autism, not autistic people. emphasize the person INSTEAD OF the condition.
i’d have to agree with Mackadal. instead of trying to make everyone fit into this impossibly narrow version of society, why don’t we create one where everyone can flourish? otherwise we might as well be genetically engineering all of our children to create a super race. sound familiar? (yes i’m referring to hitler)
If you’re going to slam me for saying “autistic people” instead of “people with autism” I don’t see why you’re ignoring Mackadal referring to those people simply as “autistics”.
I also can’t believe that you would say comparing autism to cancer is not right and then go on to compare treating medical conditions with the Holocaust. Way to go on the sensitivity scale there, champ.
My point is that desiring to treat a medical condition to make a person’s life easier is not a negative thing. Autism and cancer are both life-altering, extremely stressful medical conditions. One being fatal and the other not being fatal does not affect the validity of my argument at all.
@glueyourfingers – “Society as it is right now is not built to allow autistic people to be successful at much”
Sorry your wrong there, Casinos were established specifically for Autistic people to fill the role of card counting, I watched a documentary on the very subject, it stared that Hoffman fellow and the other little Scientologist.
I think Mackadal is providing us all with a valuable service here. For years, I have been led to believe that people with autism have special mathematical prowess, or incredible memories.
Here we have someone willing to sacrifice his dignity on the altar of the internet forum, just to prove that some autistic people are just stupid. Stupid fucking retards deserving of our sympathy, due to their total incapability of interacting with any human being on a meaningful level without coming across as a total douchebag with faecal incontinence.
Macakadal, I salute you, and your shit-headed, pig-ignorant, fat brethren.
sigh, since sleepybear doesn’t know that his innocent post led to this strange but kinda informative argument (with Mackadal flaming him with an unpleasant “Fuck you”), I would do the defending for him (although I don’t have any special qualifications).
Seriously, you should be flaming him more for his “woo first” and “damn second” (how that sounds wrong) than his desire to beat Angel. Hell, Angel is just being too persuasive there. She wants us to post that if we know anyone who has autism, yet she implies her disappointment on the 93% of whoevers for not posting it, at the same time implying the 93% (a number which has 72% chance of being made up) must also know anyone or be related to anyone (how the heck is “knowing” and “being related to” someone mutually exclusive???) with autism.
She gets points for defending them if that’s what she’s doing (everyone’s equal, that’s it), but since she just has to be slightly rude about it (Gary much worse), probably due to people being rude about those with autism, she deserves getting “I want to beat you” remarks from everyone offended.
oh dear oh dear! What a commotion I have caused!!!
Sorry for all the innocent bystanders injured in the carnage.
However I must agree with Ben. Mackadal – you are a royal freaking douche.
If I had not been thrown to the lions already Mackadal, I would argue that my desire to beat this “angel” stems from just how patronizing she is. By posting such a ridiculous status suggests that people with autism (if thats what we are supposed to say) are incapable of fighting their corner by themselves. It trivializes the whole thing.
She says that Autism is not a disease, which is alot of crap. According to the nearest dictionary a disease is “an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning.” Therefore Autism is a disease. That was what irritated me most about her absurd ramblings.
Anyways your a jerk. And if you, apparently are not one of us “normal” people, then I am glad my child/children will not turn out like you. Im with glueyourfingers on this one. Whats wrong with wanting children NOT to grow up with with a mental disfunction?
And assuming you know sooooo much about me from 20 words just makes you look stupid.
1. Anyone who posts such attention seeking nonsense in their status CLEARLY does not understand or respect those with a mental illness.. It’s Facebook.. Go 100% stupid and join an Autism Facebook group because that’s really going to make an impact on society.. Or better yet, become a fan of Autism.. Seriously change your fucking tampon and move right along..
2. This is the internet.. I can google Autism and think I know what I’m talking about.. No, no, no.. I’d rather make a mistake sharing my opinion than making statements I found on a website.. And whoever tried comparing a disease to the Holocaust need to get beaten by sleepybear <- Macakadal clearly needs anger management aka to be shot..
Autism is classified as a DEVELOPMENTAL DISORDER, not a disease.There is a huge difference between a disorder and a disease.
I work with autistic people as a second job/volunteering and most do not want to be cured (ranging from low function to high function)…and yes most people with it are fine with people saying that.Its messed up organizations like “Autism Speaks” that want to play semantics and distract from the fact that the money people give them…real autistic people have no say as to where it goes.
I am also on the spectrum myself, and carry another disorder that will probably be put on the spectrum with time (Tourette’s). Despite being able to speak well, I do have some of the really severe sensory symptoms but I still do not believe in a “cure”.
Its natural for people to seek a cure for what they don’t understand or to try and “help” people they feel are less fortunate.
Most of these kids have ways of communicating if you find their “niche”. There was a girl near where I live that her family had no idea she even knew words until one day she got on the computer and bang…she was an 8 year old girl typing like a 20 year old english major.
You kind of asked for this one by clarifying you know you “spelt” proper wrong. Well, unfortunately, you also spelled “spelled” wrong. Unless you meant spelt, as in the grain. Probably not though.
I am amused that ritzzz’s attack on thatguyconfesses for thatguyconfesses’s criticism of BritishHobo’s spelling involves assuming thatguyconfesses is an American. Couldn’t thatguyconfesses be an Aussie? Or Irish, or English, or a Scot, or even a non-native English speaker who has an excellent grasp of the English language?
Oh the ridiculousness of the internets…
Also, Charade, no offense to you personally, but since everyone else is finding fault, I thought I’d get in on the fun. Who are you to determine that a human being should be “put to sleep” merely because they’re a little slower than society’s norm? I’m pretty sure the most intelligent people in society are as far beyond you as you are beyond Gary; how would you like it if they decided you should be put to sleep?
Jesus Christ, I thought that everyone knew that there were differences between American English and British English. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that BritishHobo was using British English.
Anyway, it’s just as bad stereotyping all Americans as ignorant, especially as I get the feeling that ritzzz has never made the effort to talk to one.
Some of these arguments are so inane.
I know some minor differences in American English and British English. I love how Americans spell it, “organization” and the British English way is “organisation” which shows up as wrong in my spell check. I also love colour, favourite, etc.
first I have been lurking for awhile now, please don’t correct my punctuation right now its 4 am thanks (that’s a sideways smile y’all)
second I am only going to disagree with one comment on this lovely post (note the sarcasm) I will never ever tell my son who is autistic that he has ANY limitations because NO ONE should ever hear that (yes its a run-on sentence its early )
third I so thoroughly enjoy reading everyone’s comments even if I came into this conversation way late, but I digress my son does not have a disease he is just different that’s all and I would not change who he is for the world although like most parents I do wish I could skip the teenage years as he can be quite mouthy at times (oy 16 yr olds especially boys *rolling eyes*
Holy hell, this might be insanely late but I just have to add something. People that would insist on their loved ones suffering through not being able to wipe their own asses/form lasting relationships/speak coherent sentences JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR FUCKING TWISTED perception that living with autism is akin to CARRYING A BADGE OF HONOR . . .
Is it too late to hope that Mackadal’s already been punched?