There’s a fine line between genuine mental illness and just the self-indulgence of the comfortable middle classes. Most people I’ve met who claim to be bi-polar or have aspergers are on the wrong of that line. My advice? Remember that to even know the phrase “bi-polar” means you must be socially and financially better off than about 5 and a half billion other people on this planet so STFU and count your blessings.
@14 – Bipolar is the proper term for what is commonly known as manic depression. The basic cause is serious imbalances in the chemicals in the brain, causing alternating phases of mania and depression. It is also genetic.
What you are referring to is actually known as Dissociative Identity Disorder (sometimes called Multiple Personality Disorder) and generally it is accepted as being the result of major psychological or emotional trauma. What this guy’s talking about does not fit in the category of DID/MPD – he probably wouldn’t remember it if it did. Also, DID/MPD are extremely rare.
Whether or not this guy has either of these can’t be determined here.
I’m pretty sure people who are really manic depressive don’t go around telling people. People who actually have it want as few people as possible to know. The same with Asperger’s Syndrome. It’s not this cool trendy creative thing. It’s a total head-fuck and destroys every relationship you get into and you just want it to go away.
I actually just had a friend trying to convince me she had bipolar disorder using similar logic. Too bad the “up” or “down” (as he put it) states last usually 3 to 6 months, and a person just doesn’t swing from one to the other. There are usually “normal” states in between. He’s probably just one of those people that thinks that just because he’s “dark” and has “complicated emotions” he has something different about him. In reality, I’m pretty sure he’s just a little bitch.
Agree with NZq. And if you do any research it the time of cycles does vary. I doubt this guy would say he had bi-polar unless it was diagnosed. Most people with suspected mental illnesses don’t want to have them and may deny having a problem. I doubt he would want people to think he has problems when he doesn’t.
A lot of people do claim to have some mental illness just to sound cool, unique, or “different”. Obviously having mental illness is none of those things, but when you’re young and/or stupid, it seems cool. Unless you’re a stupid teenager, why would you publicly admit you have a mental illness?
Just a couple tidbits:
If he was indeed in an “up” phase its *incredibly* likely he would tell her all about it, even shout it from the rooftops. Taking risks and not caring about consequences is symptomatic. (and rapid cycling at its worst can be multiple switches a day its called ultradian cycling)
Not everyone is ashamed of mental illnesses/defects etc. There are actually people who are activists to try and get them de-stigmatized. (not saying Jake here would be a good candidate for that)
Is he prbly a clueless attention whore? sure. But it doesn’t invalidate these concepts.
This knob jockey has borderline traits or aka. an attention seeking bitch!
ps. Rapid cycling is a condition created by private psychs in an attempt divert away from the true personality dysfunction and is handy for their own pharmaceutical kickbacks. Fuckwits like Jake unfortunately taint the true disorder of BPAD an do nothing for stigma.
What a douche
i am bipolar and i bet he is aswell.
the “up” phase make you tell anyone very personal things as if it was normal… and that is the really sad part of the thing!
but at least he can seek for help if he is able to tell anyone like that.
Bipolar is the new name for manic depressive. Its not fun for the people who have it, and its terrible for their family. As my brother in law has it, and I have worked in psychiatry area more than 8 years so I also know professional stuff about it too.
Lots of time they talk quick, spend a lot, have trouble sleeping, and think they’re likely to get $1 million dollars in 3 months from a new business they are starting. That’s manic. When they are depressed its terrible. Lots of time they can hardly get out of the chair, or they sit and cry or can’t cope at work, sometimes they think about killing themselves. In between those problems they are more normal. So that cycle tends to make them feel they have got over the problem like it was a virus. But its not a virus and it comes back and bites them. Sometimes they’ll tell you they have the problem, other times they say they don’t.
Any of you who think you can get over depression by deciding to get over it has never had real depression. Try and find some empathy for people who have problems.
theres a funny story that im now gonna write, cus thats my thing i write funny stories, OH WAIT NO I DONT sorry i have just realised over the past few days that i am a racist cunt, and all my stories are not funny in any way
Yeah, like other people have said, I’ve never heard of a twenty-four turnaround of that magnitude. It’s a matter of months for each cycle, and everyone I know who actually has it keeps it to themselves, at least on FB, for fuck’s sake.
@DOP I have met a few people who say they have mental illness when they have nothing of the sort. I am not saying mental illness can be easy to get over, not at all. It runs in my family and I also have my own demons, so to speak. I am talking about the people who say they have these things to be cool or different or scary to others. Or you have the out and out attention whores that you often see on message boards who read about being bipolar in a magazine and all of a sudden they have it.
Not saying either way for buddy up there. I know of 3 separate people who have been diagnosed as bipolar and know that their cycles are much longer than a few hours. Unless they are tweaking with their meds or come off them all of a sudden or doing other drugs on top of them.
I have bipolar and no one actually suffering it would go about discussing it in such an obvious, offhand manner. And ‘a little deathmetal’ doesn’t turn a crippling bout of depression into an ‘up’. What a fucking moron, I despise people who use mental illness as some kind of accessary to look cool.
Hey bipolar I wish you and twats like you would learn the fuck to spell! Every browser has a spell-checker built in so you’re not only thick as pig shit, you’re a lazy fucker too. I’d love to smack you in the face for it.
Bi-polar my ass. Come back when it’s 3 weeks at a time. On an entirely unrelated note, this man should not be allowed to breed. He may begat attention-seeking cretins. For ‘may’ read ‘fucking well will’.
Actually, even though you were trolling, you’re right. Not all bipolar people have the same cycle lengths, let alone consistent lengths. I’m bipolar, and I often have “mini-breakdowns” in the middle of a normal period. That is, I will frequently cry over something insignificant and get over it, yes, *within minutes*. It is possible, believe it or not. From Wikipedia: “There are references that describe very rapid (ultra-rapid) or extremely rapid (ultra-ultra or ultradian) cycling. One definition of ultra-ultra rapid cycling is defining distinct shifts in mood within a 24–48-hour period.”
However, my depressive episodes are usually much longer. They can last months or years. And I once had a manic episode that lasted an entire summer. But my manic episodes tend to be much shorter, less common, and usually less severe (hypomania), because I have Bipolar Disorder II. Type I is the opposite; the affected person has long and severe manic episodes and shorter, less severe depressive episodes.
As someone else said, Jacob was probably just joking. Another person mentioned that manic episodes cause one to tell others very personal things easily. This is true, as I’ve experienced it myself, but that doesn’t mean he’s bipolar. Depression like that can’t just be “solved” by listening to death metal. And the fact that he casually changed the subject after that is even more of a dead giveaway that he was joking. I don’t think he’s an attention whore, he just has a strange (and awesome) sense of humor.
He sounds like his “diagnosis” came from an internet quiz, rather than an actual doctor. Yes, people *can* cycle that fast, but its very rare..
As for those who said that someone who actually had bipolar disorder would never talk so openly about it, thats wrong. I have type 1 bipolar (although unlike a lot of type 1′s, i also get really freaking awful depressions instead of the milder depressions…) and im very, very open about it. In fact, i write a blog about what its like to have bipolar disorder, although not as often as i used to because i’ve been busy. I dont want to live with the stigma all my life, so i’d rather just be open. Its not going to go away if i pretend it isnt there, so why not just be open and honest about it?
I think its up to the individual how open they want to be.
Yea, I agree with 76. I’m not bi-polar, but I have chronic depression, and I’m open as hell about it. And by the way, it sucks. If you’ve ever cried so hard you were physically shaking during, and for hours after, and you were drenched in tears… well it can be like that. It’s pretty awful, most of the time. And psychiatrists don’t help me. Mine don’t, at least. I used to have a friend that helped me more than anybody else, but I ended up falling in love with her, and ruining everything.
Being self destructive sucks ass.
@gem, agreed, it can be good to open and honest and to discuss various aspects may help, but michael, now u are just being attention seeking. we dont really need to know how u ruined ur friendship by falling in love blah blah blah.. please leave ur opinion in the forum and spare us the soap opera. and “being self distructive sucks ass.”, yes i can imagine it would. you obviously have not done it well enough.
get ur husband to try seroquel…its an anti psychotic that is being widely used to treat bipolar now as a mood stabliser…will make him sleep pretty much constantly for 2 weeks when first on it but then he will stabilise and sleeping back to normal
Ugh, I hate it when people say stuff like that about manic depression. I’m bipolar myself and have been on Lithium for a long time, and it’s… insulting when people just casually talk about their 5-minute manic episodes or depressive periods. I’ve been dealing with this illness for 4 years and it’s definitely a part of my life I’m not proud of. Only reason I’m posting it here is because of the anonymity, but it’s definitely not something I’d post on facebook.
Plus, the diagnostic criteria for a manic episode is at least a week in length (and that goes the same with depression), not 5 minutes, so get bent Jake.
Sorry, touchy and personal subject, I’ve been through a LOT.
I just find that Bipolar is now thrown around like it’s nothing..I agree with Sarah that it is kind of insulting. Only thing is, I’ve been bipolar for 8 years, and episodes like that CAN happen. Just.. in this situation, I do have to call him an attention whore… if I were in that state, which I have been, I wouldn’t be posting it around like it was nothing.
@73 I, too, am Bipolar II and as you said it is characterized by much faster cycling at times.
@83 I agree with you. Bipolar, fibromyalgia, and ADD/ADHD are often doctors saying ‘We have no idea what’s wrong with you’.
With all that being said, YES I think Americans are overdosed and over-diagnosed, but there are real mental disorders out there too. People that say pills just make us stupid sheep have not experienced the difference that the right medication can make in somebody’s life, and from my personal experience they often need a good dose of something themselves (or a swift kick in the face, as the case may be).