If I was Shannon and saw that photo I would not have a fucking clue what it was. Maybe if he added a caption people would not comment like that. Because seriously dude, you don’t need to bitch someone out because they don’t know what a Holocaust operating table looks like or the story behind it.
Jake is an idiot. In no way was Shannon being disrespectful or inappropriate in her comment. I don’t think it is fair to assume that people would know what that was a picture of. And there was no need for his massive rant, trying to make her look stupid. All he needed to say was “No, it’s a holocaust operating table”, or even just label the photo. Grrrrrr… I must be in a bad mood today cos that one has really irritated me.
I would post that on facebook totally! My husband and I are planning a trip to Europe when our daughter in a teenager (so she can remember it and appreciate it more) and I would TOTALLY post this pic. However, I know me. I’d post it in a folder marked as “Holocaust Photos” or something. I wouldn’t be under “A splash of Europe”…and it would be labeled. But that’s because I am a chatterbox know-it-all.
I think your education and interest in the holocaust is clouding your reasoning here… The average person isnt going to start walking down the mental steps to lead them to realizing that was a holocaust operating table… I could see myself making a similar comment to Shannons… Cuz I am a chatterbox jokster.
Really, if I had seen a pic of a bed like that, I would have thought someone was making a Eastern Europe hospital joke. Really, being from Europe, I’m a bit offended that “A splash of Europe”, is supposed to be enough to make you think of Holocaust
I think because of the angle and the size of her tits that is a little front tit and side tit in that pic… Doesnt help shes not wearing a bra… Oh and I find it hot that a chic noticed the sideboob :thumbsup:
Jake needs to calm the fuck down. There was nothing indicating that this was a picture of something from a concentration camp, especially with the whimsical title of `a splash of Europe`. Europe has all kinds of history, this could have been from anywhere.
I disagree with your comment in #10. It does look like an operating table, but maybe its an old one from Russia back in the day when the communists ran the show? Who knows?! Jake definitely overreacted to Shannon’s comment. The ONLY way I see myself agreeing with you is that the previous photo in this series had something obvious/stated about the Holocaust.
But to make this into an open-faced compliment sandwich, Kudos for being interested in learning about the history of Europe and WWII. I think it’s definitely fascinating to learn about the events leading up to the war and the innerworkings of the governments involved, as well as the heroics of our fine Canadian boys!
Shannon’s comment would’ve been a lot better if she had said “hostel”, thus referring to the film of the same name, in which tourists were tortured on what we could imagine being similar beds… Thus linking it with the Holocaust in a comic, yet respectful manner, and rendering Jake’s rant completely unnecessary.
I saw that gurney, and the first thing I thought was “Cool, he went to Pripyat”. Then I read his comment, and the second thing I thought was that I hoped Jake got a splash of radiation poisoning with his Europe.
Those kinds of self-righteous attention-whore types who post ambiguous comments/status updates/photos really annoy the shit out of me. But they make good lamebook fodder, so it all evens out.
@PennyLane, Jake isn’t gtting passonate about human atrocites, he’s a fucking douchebag who’s been to Germany and has decided to be a self-righteous prick about it. He probably wouln’t have known what that picture showed himself, before he went, but now he’s been he feels ike he can treat everyone else like an idiot, because they didn’t recognise a dirty old gurney. Top be fair, it could have been a prop from the set of ‘Hostel’, but there you go.
i hate the way that “europe” just seems like one giant singular entity to a lot of people outside of it. like you could say you were going to europe and that would be enough because it’s not like europe is just the continent which contains different countries or languages or cultures, heavens no.
In Shannon’s defense, while on a holiday in Europe we stayed in a “hotel” in Switzerland which was an old prison. The”beds” were not much better than that gurney with a sheet, blanket and pillow. Also if we hadn’t been to one of the concentration camps in Germany I would have never suspected and didn’t suspect that the gurney was from one until I read the comment by Jake the Jackarse
florita, “europe” is one singular entity. It’s a continent called “europe.” It’s one of seven continents on the planet earth. And sometimes its easier saying “im going to europe” rather than saying “im going to london, then flying to paris, then driving to madrid, then driving to lisbon, then swimming to venice, then running to rome (yeah my travel agent is an idiot), then flying to poland so I can take some photos of concentration camps, then flying to london, then going home.”
I can’t be arsed to read through all these comments, so if it’s been said before I apologise. BUT! About three seconds after I noticed the dogs’ eyeball being halfway round into its’ head, I noticed how huge Kirsti’s tits look! Ahaaa.
Florita, do you not think that’s the same for EVERY continent? People say they’re visiting Asia, or Africa or America..same with Europe. Like Walter says its much easier than listing every single city you intend to visit.
On a side note, I used to get annoyed that people outside of the UK refer to our accent as “british” when there are so many differen accents within the UK. Then I realised Americans probably get equally annoyed when we say “American accent”
That dog is HILARIOUS though. I might print out that photo because everytime I look at that dog I get a good laugh. He’s wearing a t-shirt with a little heart on it. He’s like the guy from Goonies… love it.
I asked you to not talk down to me, Pennylane. That seems pretty simple to me. It was just a request, that’s it, nothing more. If I offended you in my post regarding the “overly reacting” I’m sorry, but I really don’t think I did. My wording was very similar to the beginning of J_L_C’s post. If you feel the need to be insulting and talk down to me, then there’s not much I can do. Sorry my request upset you.
Walter: yes, i appreciate europe is a continent, i never said otherwise? just like.. being from europe, i do not feel european. i feel english. just like german people feel german, bulgarian people identify as bulgarian.. it’s just a bit of a generalisation that pisses me off, same with the “british accent” thing, as if everybody from ireland, scotland, england and wales has the same accent.
but haha, you have a point, it is easier to say it just kind of annoys me. ah
totalpixie: haha i know, it annoys me all the time, really. not so much if someone was like, visiting America The Country, but if they were visiting The Americas i suppose it would annoy me? dear god i have no idea what i’m even saying any more haha
and i suppose the fact that jake expected shannon to know instantly that that was a holocaust gurney cause it was in europe? like oh, europe, what isthe only thing of note that has ever happened there? the holocaust, of course! and harry potter!
Look, it’s not disrespectful to Europe or Europeans to say “I am going to Europe.” Maybe Europeans don’t understand but when an American goes to Europe they usually plan on visiting many places of interest since they are so close together. It’s easier to just say, “I am going to Europe.” It’s not meant in a rude or disrespectful way.
Seriously. I was watching a British comedy a while ago and they had an “American” on the show and they had the guy in a cowboy hat, chaps and rattlesnake boots and he kept saying “ya’ll”….I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT WORD. NEVER.
As someone who attended a Jewish elementary school where they drilled images of the holocaust into my head for 8 years of my life, I did not instantly recognize the holocaust hospital bed. For fuck’s sake, all we know based on the album name is it’s somewhere in Europe. Europe is a big place and full of artifacts of which one might want to take a photo. There’s no way of guessing the significance of that hospital bed. It’s almost as if Jake didn’t label the photo so someone would leave an uninformed comment and he could lash out like the self-righteous prick that he is.
I personally don’t mind if someone says “American accent.” Although there are many accents in America, they all fall under the umbrella of American, easily distinguishable from Australian or British or Jamaican accents (etc.) in the same, or similar ways. By the way, when we say “British,” we often mean “English,” even though that’s still a denial of the different ENGLISH accents. But if it makes you feel any better, no one I know of calls Irish or Scottish accents “British.”
@ Penny Layne : I say y’all. I’m from Kentucky, where most people say it, but that’s not why I say it. I used to refuse, thinking it was a corruption of English; but then I realized English /should/ have a way of distinguishing “you” singular from “you” plural. “You all” is just too clunky. Solution: we should all embrace “y’all.” Y’all take care now, ya hear?
bliggle, there is already a plural “you” – its “yous.” And I’m sick and tired of yous country people trying to bring in your English curruptions with redneck contractions. (this is a joke)
Seriously though, I don’t think we don’t need a plural “you.” But if there are people who really think it’s an essential part of the English language then yous have the right to that opinion and I have the right to judge y’all. (when i said “yous” and “y’all” i meant “you”)
#1: It’s not so much the missing “s” that shows up her lack of sophistication, it’s more the Paint(TM) puce heart and the clueless schoolgirl pose that play their parts in making this an iconic image of our age.
#2: Jake needs to remove those holocaust torture implements from his arse before retaliating in his own comments section. I had no idea what it was a photo of, despite being pretty gruesomely interested in the human race’s sick history. Check http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/ for some amazing rusty, creepy images of abandoned hospitals, asylums, and whatnot throughout the UK and Europe. (Not even gonna comment on the accent/generalisation/continent tangent).
#3: It may be a joke, or she may not have noticed that it’s supposed to be turkey. Either way, I wouldn’t want it anywhere near my mouth. [insert pun here]
#4: Frazzled bleached hair, acne-scarred face, sideboob, manically-depressed dog. Winner of a photo. Michael made the perfect comment.
#5: Unfortunate typo, but even more unfortunate haircut. That’s gonna take ages to grow back into something human.
Dee-Lite– Dinks? He isn’t upset about “the holocaust” he’s upset because someone made a joke on a pic that he did not label. He went off on a tangent and made himself look like a dumbass. If she had said, “Looks like you stayed at a nice hotel, see any Jewish folk while you were there?” Then THAT would have warranted the attack. Other then that…..yeah he’s just a dumbass.
Thankyou for the enlightenment, Storblington. Whatever news channel I saw it on said “cleanest”…but I guess that term would cover lack of decay, fillings, and missing teeth in a general kind of way.
Dee-lite…can you honestly say you knew from that picture what it was? Because I sure as hell couldn’t. If Shannon had made that joke knowing what it was a picture, it would have been distasteful, in my opinion. But she didn’t. And that’s really Jake’s fault for not captioning his photo more than her ignorance. And in my opinion he went completely OTT. And made himself look like a complete dick. He really should have said something along the lines of “actually, dear but misguided friend, this is infact a photo of a nazi concentration camp operating table, which had some atrocities performed upon it, and I feel therefore that making jokes about such an object is in rather poor taste. However, I apologise for my obvious oversight in the lack of caption for this particular image.”
I just wanna say, that I’ve stayed in hotels in New York that were far worse than the Holocaust.
Also, posting concentration camp-pics on Facebook under such a touristy headline is truly perverse, and Jakes clear obsession with nazi death violence is far more disturbing than the awful joke I here opened with.
Penny Lane and Alas are my kind of folks! (Alas – particularly #95). Whew! *wipes tears*
The past few days I have read, with interest, the inflammatory comments between Penny and TheEyesHaveIt and they have made me wish for a facebook ‘like’ button type thingy for lamebook so I can DISLIKE pretty much every one of TEHI’s comments. What a whiny-assed douche! No matter what, he has some lame-o, not-so-witty retort and has the obnoxious need to have the last word. Hats off to Penny for not engaging in a profanity-laden flame war. You have waaaay more patience than me
@ 101, you just made a statement and contradicted it, all in one breath. So if you’re not pompous, then why do you assume you’re correct? A true “liberal” would be open-minded. But I guess the Democratic Party is an oxymoron, like “The Employee Free Choice Act” or “Liberal Gun Laws”.
I’ve slept on rusty bed-like contraptions when I was travelling the eastern parts of Europe. And you can clearly see that Shannon is making a joke. In Latvia or Lituania whatever it is named in English, one can sleep in an old Soviet prison. Point being, I don’t even find it that weird that someone would assume that it could’ve been a ho(s)tel.
@eenerbl: That side-boob is fascinating though. It has a charm in some way.
Concur with eenerbl and Anonanus. The side boob is strangely fascinating.
I think Kirsti’s dog is a frenchie pug (half French bulldog, half pug). If that is the case, the answer to Michael’s question would be an emphatic “yes,” if the frenchie pugs I’ve been acquainted with are any indication.
OR MAYBE that screen shot was taken out of context – maybe Jake’s friends knew he was goingon a trip to Europe which included visits in Holocaust related places, maybe it was the main goal of the trip, maybe this fact was all over his profile, the statuses and other pictures.
Maybe it *was* obvious this picture had something to do with the subject and Shannon was stupid enough to make a joke. Maybe she’s uber annoying IRL too, so any means justify the end.
@stretch: I agree; that side boob is strangely compelling. I keep coming back, wanting to make friends with it… Please feel free to read this as “She’s so hot! BONER BONER BONER I didn’t notice a dog HARD ON HARD ON HARD ON. I wish I was that dog! FAP FAP FAP”… But I don’t mean it like that.
I want to bury that freaky dog in an unmarked grave. Then take it’s place. FAP FAP FAP
Even if we suppose that Shannon’s really annoying, and if we assume Jake’s made it blatantly obvious that he’s been to see some historical European gore-porn, and even if the other 36 photos were of gas chambers and barbed wire, and even if he’s spent weeks updating his status with “Jake is still thinkin about dem poor jews”, even supposing all of that, it still would NOT be OK for him to react like that to what she said. If she’s so irritating that his eyeballs itch when he reads her comments, he should de-friend her.
I can only assume Jake recently tried to seduce Shannon, and failed. Then it would make sense.
I agree with all of the posts above, that:
- April is definitely “sophiticated.”
- Jake is a pr-ck.
- Leah is probably funny but possibly dumb.
- Phoebe is the best most amazing Super dog ever!!! I think when the photo was taken she was saying “HEEEEYYY YYOOOOUUUUSSS GUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSS!!!!!”
- Kirsti’s thigh is like a sneezing 1000 dolla stack.
- Tammy’s photo was cropped too high. It photo doesn’t even come close to showing the results of the work done.
I want so much for Jake to come on here and bitch us all out for being so disrespectful as to have his facebook picture of a Holocaust gurney on here. Don’t we know that everyone should be completely reverential of everything all the time?
Have to put my 2 cents’ worth in here — You *might* want to be careful lumping in Ireland in regards to being part of Britian…I would wager there are quite a few people who are citizens of the Republic of Ireland (its own country BTW) that would take serious issue with THAT generalisation….just sayin’
The penny is not a useless form of currency. At school, I was taught that if you drop one off the top of the Eiffel Tower, by the time it reaches the bottom, it will gave gained enough energy to punch straight through someone and bury itself into the concrete. I’ve been saving up pennys for a scientific expedition across the Channel, in the hope I can hit a Frenchman…
Jake posting a moderately interesting picture +0
Shannon posting a comment, clearly intending sarcasm +1
Shannon careless in bringing out his sarcasm -1
Jake responding to Shannon’s comment +1
Jake getting a little disturbed probably due to emotions brought upon understanding the cruelties of the Holocaust -0
Jake having such emotions +1
Jake flaming Shannon for it (to neutralise his and possibly others’ insensitivity) +1
Jake flaming Shannon in public -1
Jake being overreactive -1
Jake not being informative beforehand -1
Jake finally being informative +2
Jake not having a sense of humour (due to emotions though) -1
Jake using bad words as exclamations on someone in public -1
Us judging -0 (it’s lamebook after all
Me analaysing -127
The verdict : eh, seems ok-ok to me.
Lessons for Shannon :
-watch before you joke. It’s good to be humorous and entertaining regularly, but make sure it’s at the right place and time.
-possess more knowledge to understand what are (or is? When do we use the “refer to first noun” rule?) the “right place and time”
Lessons for Jake :
-if you’re sensitive, be more careful in presenting stuff that might have insensitive responses.
-have a sense of humour.
-possess more knowledge to understand different individuals’ senses of humour.
Haha, Jake actually realised that Shannon was joking, but he still needs to learn to take it as a joke and just that.
@freezit4 : you yourself admit having flaws in your judgments and yet you dare post such tl;dr of a comment with mixed up format and think self-stabbing will save you?
-freezit4 of the NYLon Island who loves cats, goats and Electric Six. Aspires turning everything into what he loves. Loves confusing.
Am I the only one who assumes Jake did all of that on purpose? I see (poorly socialized) people do it all the time. He posted an ambiguous photo in an ambiguous title and with no caption, then when somebody posted about it he went up one side and down the other.
He baited her. He wanted somebody to say something “ignorant” so he could get on his soap box and show all of his Facebook visitors how experienced, historically informed, and passionate he is about the Holocaust.
If I were Shannon I would most likely have responded in kind. But then, I react pretty strongly to being assaulted with graphic descriptions of violence with no purpose other than to make me look like a tool.
I tend to agree with guynamedmark….in just this one blurb Jake has presented himself to me as that kind of douchebag.
I’m not sure I understand the people “sort of” defending Jakes reaction and blaming Shannon for being ignorant.
I consider myself to be a relatively smart girl, but when I saw the pic I did not assume it to be a gurney from a concentration camp. There is such a thing as old hospital or mental asylum museums which might display such things. Its also possible that during his adventures in Europe he just happened to spot this old thing. Some people just never throw shit away.
I also don’t think it safe to assume that because someone is visiting Europe, naturally they are going to visit the Holocaust museums. If I’m ever lucky enough to get there, it will probably not be really high on my list of things to do….please don’t mistake that for ignorance or a lack of awareness of how significant those events were in our history. Its just not at the top of my list of things to do…at least on my first visit.
Jake should have captioned the damn pictureLabeling the album “Splash of Europe” didn’t help Shannon (or anyone else for that matter)identify the subject of this phot either!
So, I made it to comment 101 before I finally gave up and decided to just put my 2 cents in. (Sorry if what I say is made irrelevant by comments 102-154.)
#1. Yes, I take issue with his douchery in being a presumptuous show-off who holds people to his own twisted and unreleased expectations only to degrade them when they fail to meet them. It’s unreasonable and (I think) a bit mentally unstable to assume that everyone you know has exactly the same knowledge that you do.
I also have an issue with it since I’m someone who hasn’t a chance to really travel. Granted, I don’t know Shannon’s background, but if I were in her shoes I’d wind up offended because being able to identify that sort of photo caption-free is the sort of thing you could only do if you’ve had the chance to travel and see it. For those of us who don’t get that opportunity, it’s a smack in the face to be talked down to because of it. Plus, why the hell does Jake get to do it when he clearly doesn’t deserve to?
In regards to the accent debate, I think it’s worth taking into account that even though the U.S. is separate in regards to accents and culture, it’s still a unified government system. The states have separate identities, but we’re all relating back to the same government and country. I think Americans consider themselves Americans far more than Europeans consider themselves Europeans. As someone said before, they much more commonly relate to their country of origin. There’s some technicality to be noted with the fact that Americans isn’t the continental term, it’s the country’s. North Americans include Canadians and Mexicans. I would take much more of an issue with being grouped together with North Americans, much as I imagine it is for Europeans. I identify much more strongly with my country than my continent.
I think Jake is a fucking moron. I mean really… “A Splash of Europe”? It’s been 70 fucking years since the Holochaust. For fuck’s sake:
1. Stop guilt tripping people for something that happened 2 generations and a half ago.
2. Don’t post serious or “touchy” shit on facebook and certainly NOT without a caption.
3. ENTIRE CIVILIZATIONS were lost to wars, much bigger in size and population, in the entire history of human kind. Jews weren’t the only ones killed off like dogs, as a matter of fact, that’s a custom for any conquering civilization, to kill off their victims and strike terror in them. You don’t see Persians making crappy ass movies about it and winning oscars because it’s “politically correct” to go along with them, just because Alexander The Great conquered them and burnt down their capital.
Rodo, you are a complete asshole. Of course the Jews weren’t the only ones killed in the Holocaust, but the scars are still with us. You really have no right to an opinion about the Holocaust (or “Holochaust”) if you can’t even fucking spell it. I hope you fucking die.
wow didn’t shannon’s harmless comment stir up some emotion.. yet i read earlier today a girl stating her ideal match being hitler with zero backlash.. this is a tongue in cheek site, the comments don’t need to be over analysed like you’s are writing a fucking thesis or some shit.. but i guess if the #1 comment is from a misguided killjoy with no real grasp or understanding of people(@pennylane) then this was bound to happen.. especially when you get a site with a group of people who like to feed their ego’s by writing semi-intelligent semi-eloquent comments that they think will make people go wow this guy is much smarter than me wow what insight i’ve gained from reading their comments blah blah blah..