You got it front to back. Obama is the one who didn’t get his way when Obamacare was resoundingly defeated, so he pushed it through with an executive order, just like a king would try to do. Then he closes the government down because congress won’t take his crap. We shouldn’t bow down to King Obama. Roll on 2016 so we can finally get this joker out of office and put someone stable in there who might actually help this country!
I completely agree with you, RedDog. I would also add that ACA is seriously flawed but Obama refuses to hear it. But this was never about fixing health care. It has always been about supporting your party and it is us against them. That is true for both sides of the aisle.
That is how we ended up with a pure party line vote. That is how we have quotes like, “We have to pass the bill so that you can see what is in it.” That is how we sell it as not being a tax until it had to be a tax in order to pass a constitutionality test.
The entire system is a joke. It has been reduced to the mentality of Packers versus Bears, girls versus boys, and red team versus blue team. The issues no longer matter, it has become nothing more than supporting your team blindly to the end at all costs.
Regardless of the circumstances, the Government should never be shut down. If there is a fight to get something passed, or stopped, they should be working overtime on negotiations. Why the fuck are they paid so much for a vacation? It’s not the high level officials who are affected by the shutdown; it’s the low level families that require some assistance from our Government. Veterans are affected. Food assistance is affected.
And for all you fucktatds who think I’m completely liberal: I agree with drug testing the people for the assistance; rendered.
The federal government has shutdown something like 17 times before. The last time was in 1995 and like in 1995, all federal workers will likely get back pay for the time they were shut down. For those in government, this is nothing but a free vacation. There is no reason for them to end the shut down as fast as possible, they get extra paid time off for as long as this goes on.
However, I believe this is the first time the government has closed national parks and monuments. Even parks that are on public land but receive no federal funding and run entirely by private organizations and funding.
I believe it is also the first time the federal government has ordered states to close state parks that get federal funding. Thankfully I don’t know of any states that complied.
In fact, Arizona even asked the federal government to allow them to use state funds to keep the Grand Canyon open during shut down and the federal government refused and ordered the park closed instead of allowing Arizona to pay for the park during this time.
It is all a stupid game. The federal government playing games with the American people and that is all this shut down is about.
Hey regurgitated beefpile, you’re intellectually challenged. I think that’s the pc word I’m supposed to use instead of retard these days. Either way our Prezzy ran outta vacay spots and decided to have a staycation; therefore, what Barry Soetoro wants, Barry gets…
@Reddog: your statement, “Obama is the one who didn’t get his way when Obamacare was resoundingly defeated, so he pushed it through with an executive order.” is patently false. The ACA was passed in both the Senate (60-40) and the House (219-212 — 4 not seated).
I definitely lean right on some issues (fiscal, mostly), but today’s Republicans are terrifying to me, as they seem completely divorced from reality. Reddog’s comment is a perfect example of that. The ACA was passed, yet he somehow errantly believes that it was voted down, and that Obama magically made it a law despite its defeat in Congress. When one side refuses to accept objective fact, how are you even supposed to have a dialogue?!
Nothing like a bunch of cynical peeps who enjoy Facebook nonsense to have a civilized debate about politics. For what it’s worth, from a non-American perspective, the US is making a mockery of itself. It’s a little concerning when politicians refer to some other politicians as “extremists” – I thought that term was reserved for religious crazies who wanted to cause extreme harm to large numbers of people. Oh, wait…