Friday, July 9, 2010

Jeeeez!

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  1. dreamweaver said:

    “He didn’t exist. His dad doesn’t exist. It’s all hearsay, and I am eternally grateful for that fact.”

    Wait a second, dreamweaver. According to your eschatology, there is no such thing as “eternally”.

  2. Well I am glad that there is a belief that causes people to do good things and strive to be better people. Yes, there are some religious people who do bad things in the name of their God and I understand that a lot of wars etc are caused in the name or one God or other, but do people seriously thing that if nobody was religious there would be no wars?! THAT would be more naive than believing in something that there is no ‘historicsl evidence’ of.

    I think that religion causes a lot of happiness to a lot of people and don’t think anyone should have the right to say that it is invalid. If you don’t believe it, you don’t believe it, if you try to tell others that they should conform to your belief that there is no higher power then how are you any different from the Christians who try to convert everyone?

  3. *think
    *historical

    Bleugh… must learn to use a keyboard better…

  4. @BarGolfWill

    eternally: adverb
    forever, always, for keeps, for all time, in perpetuity, evermore etc etc

    The word doesn’t necessarily imply a belief in an everlasting deity – though as it’s possible to use it for that purpose, it made me chuckle.

    I’m always, continually, ever, evermore, for ever so long, for keeps, forever, forevermore, in perpetuum, perpetually, regularly, and until cows come home sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

  5. @Tazinijif

    I don’t believe I told anyone they had to confirm to my beliefs. I merely stated the fact that there is no historical evidence that this particular stone age myth has any basis in reality, and expressed my relief that no such evidence exists.

    That isn’t to say however that I don’t have the right to disagree with anything I choose to disagree with! That’s the beauty of having freedom of speech and the ability to look at something, see its faults and apply logic to, in this instance, reach the conclusion that it cannot be true.

    You however are free to make your own mind up.

  6. @dreamweaver Sorry, that wasn’t meant as a personal attack or anything, it wasn’t even aimed at you, or anyone really, I’m just sitting here chatting/debating. Mostly with myself, but at least on the internet I can pretend someon’s interested :0P

    I’m going to go back to my corner now…

  7. Now, before I start my post…this is not the time of place for a debate on beliefs, because it will accomplish nothing for either party, and just get people angry.

    However, I do feel the need to right wrongful ideas.

    @Dan_Fargis: Your statement is right, but your reference is incorrect. The word used in Matthew 5:34 for “swear” in Greek is “omnuō”, which means to take an oath (like, “I swear on my life that I will find you.”).

    A proper verse would have been Ephesians 4:29, which says “Let no unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.” (NIV)

    @Tazinijif: You too, are right but wrong. Yes, we are not meant to judge. But your idea of judgement is slightly skewed.

    Colossians 3:16 says, “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God.” (NIV).

    You’ll notice the word “admonish”, which means to caution or warn against something, or even to scold. The word “judge” used in Matthew 5:1 is “krinō”, which means (I’m paraphrasing here) “To mentally or judicially distinguish, with implication to condemn”.

    When the Bible say not to judge, it means not to look down on others. It doesn’t mean we’re not supposed to tell people when they’re disobeying God’s word; just that we’re supposed to go about it in the right way.

    Romans 3:23 does say that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” We’re all equal in God’s eyes; but unfortunately a lot of Christians (myself included) sometimes struggle with that…

  8. @marc92 I don’t know how often you visit this site, but dan_fargis seems to spend most of his life here, criticising both the people in the posts themselves and, more often, the people who respond in the comments. Perhaps in this instance he was cautioning or warning someone, but his posts are generally very judgemental. I don’t think that anyone on this earth has the power to condemn or judge someone for their actions (as long as they are legal) whether they consider them to be Christian actions or not. Leave the judging up to God.

    Personally I think that a good Christian is someone who makes others aware of their religion and that they can be approached if anyone is in need of a moral compass or Christian support. It is fine to make your beliefs known but to force them upon others is just not right. Not everyone wants to be ‘saved’ and I think dan_fargis would find his time better spent in a homeless shelter serving up soup and words of encouragement to people who actually WANT the help than trolling.

  9. Man… bunch of blowhard buzzkills around here. Enough with the pseudo-informed debate about Christianity.

  10. “there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus ever existed. No contemporary of Jesus ever wrote about him; there are no records to say that Pontius Pilot executed him; there is no evidence that any city called Nazereth even existed at that time.” <– wrong. That's all

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