Bush is a crack pot. There is no nuttier person alive. lol Seriously- how did that guy even graduate high school?

It wasn’t hard; leaving her wanting more.

If you want to escape from underneath the stereotype, tell the rest of your band to stop living up to it. Tell the same thing to the Asian drivers in Vancouver too.

At this point, I think we’ve pretty much beat the horse, so let’s shake hands and say “well done”.

I grew up in Arizona, from PA originally. I grew up in Phoenix’s Westside, which is predominantly Hispanic. And that included growing up with kids whose parents were undocumented. (the preferred term for people who have come here illegally). I will admit that my attitude toward this law has been shaped by the personal experience I have had with these families. They worked hard. They took care of their families and they were a part of our community. They came here without options, and they are able to do so because our federal government prefers to look the other way instead of creating legislation that will make it easier to come into this country for those who truly need to be here; the reasons for which are entrenched in politics and certain unspoken understandings with the Mexican government. I went to school with these kids, and I went to parties at their houses, and I knew their grandparents, and I have a personal interest in people who are anything but a scourge to our communities.

I am willing to admit, like I said, that I feel strongly against this law because I know the personal face of it. There is really no argument that I can wage or can be waged against me that can divorce me from those sentiments. It is truly a different story living here, living with these people, knowing their struggles firsthand. It is hard not to see the faces of people you have known and cared about for many years colored by fear and terror of deportation, the fear of being returned to live under a deeply corrupted government where the primary power is in the hands of drug cartels, and the basic necessities of life, health care, employment, are at best scarce.

I would also feel differently if I didn’t know firsthand working in the public sector that Brewer and Arpaio are fear-mongers at best, who seek to establish a policy of discrimination and xenophobia dressed in the sheep’s clothing of border security. If I didn’t know better, I might trust them. But I do know better, and so I never can.

If someone is holding up a bank, do we expect the police to look the other way? Or should they “ask a few questions”? That’s essentially what is happening. Our taxpayer dollars are getting stolen. I’m also white and a born citizen, but that doesn’t mean I have license to break the law – so if I was asked if I’m a citizen, I would consider it a privilege to provide proof that I am. I am providing a good life for my family legally and I pay the dues and taxes of that life.

Is it the same crime as murder? Of course not. But neither is stealing, which is what this is.

Good job Dan, you’re obviously in the right job…

For me personally – I encourage people to escape from poverty and violence and welcome them to our beautiful and great country – and our country welcomes them! There is a process for it, there are work visas, there are steps to follow to become a citizen, there are procedures in place to allow that all to happen legally.

The problem here is that when people come here illegally, they are a drain on society fiscally and the people who foot the bill are the those who pay their taxes and abide by the laws. The federal deficit could probably be nearly wiped out if EVERYONE who makes wages were to pay their taxes. Everyone loses.

So yes, while they’re doing their best to provide a better life for their family, they’re approaching it in the wrong manner, doing it illegally and essentially stealing from the country that would welcome them if they did it properly and STILL provide that better life.

/soap box

All I’m saying is that it’s easy not to break ‘the law’ when you’re not starving to death if you catch my drift. It’s called empathy, and this world would be a better place if everyone had it.

I’m sorry that asking people to abide by the laws is so intolerable to you. There is an immigration process in this country which we all must follow. My ancestors came over, through Ellis Island and did it the LEGAL way (far after the conquering of the Indians so don’t try the whole “your relative stole this land” thing). I have no sympathy for those who break the law. Whether it’s the drunk driver who loses his license for DUI, it’s the thief who gets caught stealing from the bank or the construction worker who is here illegally.

The liberals try to paint anti-illegal immigration folks as “racists” when the reality is conservatives are law abiding citizens who believe that American jobs should go to ACTUAL law-abiding, tax-paying Americans. There’s nothing “racist” about wanting immigrants to follow the legal process of gaining citizenship. If they are too impatient or too lazy to go through that process, they shouldn’t be here. They’re parasitic and anathema to a healthy and safe society.

The rest of your screed reminds me a poorly constructed essay written by a college freshman at a liberal college (i.e. almost all of them nowadays).

As for your dig at George W. Bush, I suggest you look around and realize that it was the liberals in Congress in 2006 and President Obama right now who have destroyed this country by undermining the Christian values upon which this country was founded.

@d_f: * i shouldn’t have said we stole it, we actually purchased it.