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You are a Christian? Wow, no one cares.

As an atheist, I do not claim Christians are clueless, cluelessness knows no borders. As I said before, the theist Aaron seems interesting and well informed, the theist Vincent seems like a clueless twat. And there are plenty of idiot atheists around too.

Incidentally, what do you think was the “central argument” of the God Delusion? Atheists don’t need to prove that god does not exist, they just need to debunk the arguments that he does. Similarly, creationists don’t need to prove that evolution is wrong, scientists need to prove that it is right. The null hypothesis stands until the alternative is proven.

If either of you truly knew anything about theism and atheism, you’d know that when it comes to philosophy and theology, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens are hacks.

Dawkins is a biologist, and “The God Delusion” avoided almost all of the central (and strongest) arguments for theism. His central argument in his book was laughably inconclusive, and did not in any way, prove that God does not exist. He’s an expert in biology, no doubt, but in the realm of philosophy he has no chance.

Hitchens, on the other hand is a JOURNALIST. His book, “God is not Great” centrally appeals to what is known as “the problem of evil,” a subject that is more or less not debated anymore as it no longer has any worth for the atheist to press against the theist. God and evil can coexist.

Hitchens actually debated William Lane Craig, a noted Christian philosopher a number of months ago, and Hitchens’ performance was absolutely embarrassing, appealing mostly to satire and anger to attempt to convince audience members of his point.

Sorry, but neither of these guys have a clue.

Quentin Smith, a noted atheist, has himself even expressed his dissatisfaction with Dawkins attempt to enter into the world of philosophy. Basically called him a fool.

So many atheists claim that Christians are clueless. Beware, that shoe fits just as well on your feet too.

The debate seems like it may be on the verge of getting definitional, and those debates bore me to tears, so I’m ejecting, though I will reiterate my rejection of your assertion that I just need to have a little faith. Anyway, you seem like a sensible and witty kind of guy Aaron, have a good life.

Vincent, you seem like a fuckwit.

Oh that?!?! Yeah, hilarious.

Otherwise you might know that a “welt, long scar, or wound,” is an acceptable, if old, definition of stripe.

I’m so disappointed in you, Lamebook.

Oh, I agree that imposing beliefs is wrong – I think if people are to believe in God, they have to come to it on their own time, on their own terms, walking their own path of belief. I also believe in the abilities of reason – if there’s a tenement of my faith, a value I’m supposed to hold, that doesn’t stand up to reason, I don’t hold it. =P God being the one thing beyond rational proof, it’s simply a matter of “yes” or “no”. You have free will, you’re perfectly allowed to make that choice.

And trust me, if someone tried to use God to justify a false or crappy law, I’d be right there knocking it down, too.

PS: They’re not bad, but that’s just proof you’re a heathen. =P I listen more to progressive music, along with death/black metal, myself.

By the way, you obviously don’t comprehend atheism. We don’t stand on “shaky ground” at all. We are a-theists, not anti-theists. We take the rational approach that claims of god need evidence, otherwise the claims are as worthless as the exceptionally thin paper they are written on. We represent the null hypothesis, not a different alternative hypothesis. Different alternative hypotheses are presented by other religions.

And I can quite happily tolerate the idea of something (i assume you mean someone) that disagrees with me. In fact, I quite enjoy the debates. Interesting that you say atheists are trying to impose their “beliefs” on other people, IMMEDIATELY after you say “they just need to have a little faith”. Hypocritical much? I don’t need a little faith, I’m doing perfectly well without it, thanks very much.

Trying to impose beliefs is pointless anyway. If your mind was open to rational thought, you would reach rational conclusions all by your little old self. Keep your faith, I don’t mind at all. But if you venture into the secular world trying to impose faith-based ideas upon me, I will try my hardest to slap you down. Yay for martyrdom!

I find a lot of atheists stand on a lot of shaky ground for their beliefs. Can’t tolerate the idea of something that disagrees with them. I guess they just need to have a little faith and stop trying to impose their beliefs on other people, hm?

The God Delusion, by Dawkins, is excellent. I also recommend God is not Great, by Hitchens.

I’m going to go and update my status right now.

I will mock anybody I damn well please. There’s a creationist in my history class this semester. I’m thinking of buying him a book on evolution to explain it to him.

I disagree entirely. Anyone who has faith weak enough to be destroyed by mocking doesn’t really have faith. Any god who is shaken by mocking does not deserve to be worshipped. Any god that can be destroyed, should be destroyed. And even Hillary Clinton knows that no argument of religious sensitivity should be used curtail freedom of speech.

Besides, most religions claim that all other gods are false, which is blasphemous in the context of those other religions. The mere act of identifying with one religion implicitly mocks the others. Calling jesus the messiah instead of just a prophet is heresy in islam and judaism. The only difference between atheists and Christians is that Christians reject 99% of all gods and atheists reject 100%. We are 99% in agreement.

I’ll mock what I choose to mock. Telling me I can’t do that denies my right to freedom of speech. My mocking your religion denies you nothing. You be religious and I’ll be blasphemous. Then we should all be happy.

Seriously people, get over it. This is Lamebook, we make fun of EVERYTHING here. Especially when people give credit for their own hard work and success to some invisible guy in the sky. THAT’S lame.

Boy, I hope I’m right and Hell doesn’t exist, because if not, I’m surely going.

If there is a hell, I guess I’m going.

And why do you suppose they are so precious about it anyway? Why does it ‘deserve’ respect, over and above, say, belief in the Tooth Fairy to those of us who don’t believe in it?

And we’re not worried about catching christianity through facebook, thanks. But since you guys seem so desperate to remind the rest of us constantly about what you believe – is it cos you MIGHT catch atheism off the internet?