Lizzle it might be- my bf is 28 and he had to get his done 4 weeks ago because he’s too big for his skin. It happens- its not always a choice thing.
On the other hand its pretty wrong that she has to “shop around” for a circumcision…. its not like she’s buying a pair of shoes or something!
Zizzi (#6), sorry to hear about your problem – but that doesn’t affect the rest of us. Zoned is right. A handful of trolls, clones and spammers took the comments section over, and many of the really witty contributors left. Introducing the login process became a necessity. It’s a small price to pay to be rid of the morons. Sorry about your cookie problems though.
@7: Circumcision is very common throughout the world. Besides Jews, most Muslims are also circumcised and in some countries, including the United States, most males are circumcised regardless of religion.
I’m guessing, based on the apparent lack of health coverage and the name Tiffany, that she is a non-Jewish American.
@Fenring: I am aware that circumcisions are received by many males across the globe regardless of race or religion. I happen to have a high regard for ‘Southpark’ which has worked its way into #7 statement.
circumcising men is like cutting girls’ clits off. maybe it’s just me, but I believe men are competent enough to keep their cocks clean…without clipping off any of their skin…there are valuable nerve endings in there after all i mean COME ON! but then again…i did have my cat’s balls chopped off. does that make me a hypocrite?
@Diva: Circumcision (and I personally see no need for it) is not akin to female genital mutilation. It doesn’t completely obliterate sexual pleasure and isn’t used as a tactic to control an entire gender.
Also, there are few nerve endings in the foreskin. The argument against circumcision there is actually that the foreskin protects and covers the nerves. Men who have been circumcised have these nerves exposed on a constant basis making them desensitized to the sensation.
i make the comparison in that they are unnecessary alterations to the genitalia.
there is DEF no similarity in regards to means of implementation, the cultural derivations of the practices, or worst repercussions.
however that being said…if tiffany decides to take on the responsibility herself, it could look a lot like FGM down there. leave that boy’s boy alone!
Diva, I agree 100%. I was struggling a bit to articulate my thoughts on this, then I saw your posts. Thanks for putting it so precisely!
And may I add that I find any genital mutilation a horrible ghost from less enlightened times.
ok leave the poor kids wang alone, and
@Zizzi BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA oh your boyfriend is so huge. My thanks for the thanksgiving laugh. I think thats what I’ll tell all the ladies that see my “cut” wiener, “hey baby it was just to big for its skin” bwahahahahahahahahahaha
i’m not sorry i don’t have one. i’m actually a girl so if i had a cock then the least of my concerns would be how much foreskin it had. unless it was too huge to be uncircumcised and in which case i’d be hanging out with a completely different class of people on the internet.
er, sef…if he had his manbits trimmed when he was a ‘nipper’ (which i am assuming you mean as an infant or younger) then how in the world would you know that as a result he could last longer unless you were, you know, doing something kinda illegal?
Babies forget about it. Grown men probably wake in cold sweats after being snipped as adults. Boys are some of the filthiest creatures on the planet. Its hard to get my son to wash his hands never mind wash his willy properly. He is no worse for wear after getting his done. And yes I must be a bad parent then, but then again screw you for judging me. Im married to a man who wasn’t snipped. I left the matter up to him and he decided for it too.
Um or not do it at all. It should cost a lot more than that and I hope the doctor told her that it was worthless. Rarely does anyone ever need it done, they only get it done because of pressure, self esteem problems, etc. (actually, circumcised guys are more likely to have more serious infections, permanent complications and re-surgeries than natural guys are to have anything wrong with them). #48 is a good example of social pressure: oh I left it up to him…by cutting up his son and telling him how dirty men are. Are you joking? You shamed him into it. Also, men know how to wash a foreskin. My Lord, ladies, how hard do you think it is? Circumcision is just plain gross. I’m circumcised and I will never forgive my parents. Not sure what remembering has to do with it (some guys and how they rationalize this craziness). I see it every day. That’s bad enough.
Social pressure? The hell? I asked him should we get the baby done if its a boy. He thought long and hard and we debating both pros and cons. I ultimatly left it up to my husband bc he was the one with a penis. And my husband has a clean willy. Ive never had to say “Dear do you mind going and washing your flithy penis. You are a man and thus dirty.” Boys are dirty. They wear the same underwear days on end, they dont like to bathe. Do you really think he will clean his penis snipped or not? He can barely handle wiping his ass. Also Im sure in his days catting about before I snagged him my husband ran into a few women that didnt like men that were uncirced. Maybe that was another reason. And how do we tell a 3 week old he’s dirty? He didnt think beyond when the next meal was coming and eww my bum is wet or shitty. Its a piece of skin man. He still has a penis minus a piece of skin. I didnt chop his balls off. And really dont pass your Mommy and Daddy issues off on me.
It doesn’t even pull back until he’s a couple of years old. I’d assume you’re telling him what to wash until then anyhow. Obviously your husband hasn’t had a problem and 99% of men don’t either. The other 1% get a totally curable bacterial infection and learn their lesson. (Also, “Me”: I read your post as if your husband did it to himself, so that’s what I meant for pressure) Not sure why your husband running into women who didn’t like it would make a difference. That means there’s something wrong with the women, not him. The sexual fetishes of older women is not a reason to even consider plastic surgery on a baby. Also, I don’t have parental issues, I love them. They just made a very bad and ill-informed decision (there’s NO REASON to do it to a baby) that wasn’t theirs to make and I cannot forgive them for that (I’m in my 20s, so they don’t have the excuse that they didn’t know better, parents had already stopped doing it in big numbers). They apologized, because they knew they did the wrong thing and the doctor never told them that there was no reason, so I blame him for negligence more. Trust me, most circumcised men don’t like it, but they feel like they have to pretend to. I can’t think of any reason to like being circumcised and the complications are far more serious than with a foreskin. I cannot imagine doing that to my kid, I really can’t. There’s NO reason to do it to a child. Adults can do whatever weird crap they want to themselves. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TIFFANY, DON’T DO IT. HE’LL THANK YOU LATER, I PROMISE!!
I know several young boys and men that needed to be snipped later in life. That is way more traumatic. You do what you want with your kids as we did with ours. Its a personal choice either way. I dont judge those who dont do it. I dont agree when people pierce baby girl ears. Do I think them terrible parents? Nope I might not like it but its their choice. So thats all I gots to say about this. I cant put it back and he is no worse for wear. He has bigger issues to think about then why his penis looks a certain way. Like what pokemon is his favourite etc.
The chances of needing it done later are way less than %1, so that’s not a reason to do it to a child either (quite the contrary, to circumcise a boy for that reason, you’re almost without exception trying to prevent something that’ll never happen and instead putting him at higher risk for infections and more surgeries as a result. I know many boys who look like they got it caught in a knife fight, but they don’t have anything they can do, I would think that would be even more traumatic). I agree that it’s a personal choice…but for the boy. I don’t understand how piercing ears is anything like circumcision, it’s not even similar (tiny removable ring v. irreparable dick surgery on a baby?), so not sure how to respond to that. As a circumcised male myself, I disagree that he’s no worse for wear and I doubt he’s going to take it as lightly as you do, but I guess the damage is done, that much is true. In general, I just wish parents would have more respect for their children and more doctors would be responsible enough to say honestly “sorry this is just wrong, there’s no reason to do it.” Personally, it disgusts me. I don’t judge the parents either, I just cannot for the life of me figure out the motivation. Ah, well, some day this fetish will pass. I’m happily done discussing this as well. I can only hope the price made Tiffany take the responsible route.
You know you people are showing way to much interest in someone else’s penis. Im just as bad for putting it out there that he got snipped but for Christs sake its skin. Ok just a piece of skin! Would you get mad at your parents if you had to have your tonsils removed? They were a part of you too. Maybe people who have them are happier? Now you wont know bc you no longer have them. Or maybe you are just as good as everyone else and need to move the fuck on and get over it.
Me what did you expect? You brought it up in a public forum (lamebook of all places) did you not expect some scrutiny? I for one wouldn’t give my child the snip, there is just not enough medical evidence to justify my child having to go through a surgical procedure regardless of risk factors. Citing better hygiene as a reason for this operation is laughable, it is not hard to keep a penis clean.
@ Cassie: I have loads of love and respect for my son. He is a boy all boys like to be dirty. They love bugs and filth, and yes he can be a flithy little monkey. Doesnt mean I dont love or respect him. Attitude? I see my kids for what and who they are. I dont wear rose colored glasses. Too many parents are blind to their kids and only see what they want to see.
As for scrutiny I dont give a fuck what you people think of me. If I did do you think I would even be on here? And surgical procedure? It was done in the doctors office. It was no big deal. His biggest issue was that his lunch time bottle was delayed. He was completly frozen and felt nothing. You know what I’ll knit whoever was snipped and pissed a penis cozy so you wont feel left out. Also if you want to bitch about how horrible I am, I also made my husband get a vasectomy. No penis/balls is safe around me I guess. You all spout the same garbage. A penis is a penis it all works the same regardless of the skin on it.
hey “me”, go watch some youtube videos of babies being circumcised and see if you don’t change your mind. It is pure and utter torture, and nothing more. I’m so glad you are so happy to have tortured your child, oh but wait, it’s ‘just skin’, right? Wrong. Thank God they are too young to remember it, but if anyone were to see it done, they would have to be a psychopath to ever feel alright having it done to one of their children.
69 my favourite number. Thankyou i will try. Although the number 69 + talking about penis’s . . . i dont know where i was going with that, but i do have the urge to eat a hotdog! More tomato sauce, MORE!
@Me: Although you’re completely wrong about it being “just skin,” let’s put that aside for a second. Would you be okay with it if a completely pointless operation were performed on you without your consent?
Now let’s add in the fact of what the foreskin actually is. It represents about HALF the erogenous tissue of the penis. It contains specialized nerves and maintains the NATURAL mucous membrane of the head of the penis, keeping it healthy and natural and sensitive.
The original arguments in America for circumcision were about stopping masturbation. America currently has one of the highest rates of Circ in the world, and no, circumcision is NOT highly prevalent all over the world. Jewish and Muslim people do it, and so do Americans, but more people in the world realize that there are no medical reasons to do it, so if it is not your faith, it is unnecessary.
Maybe if something similar were done to you, and you didn’t have any choice in the permanent mutilation of your sexual organs, you’d feel differently.
On a different note, I find it odd that you say you “made” your husband get a vasectomy.
“It’s a Doberman. Let it have its ears!” -Lindsay Bluth
Seriously, though, it’s the parents’ decision. Chill out, anti-circumcision lobby. A tiny piece of skin whose absence does not harm or impair the genitals? Really not that big of a deal. There are far, far worse things being done to humans in this world that perhaps deserve your passionate attention moreso than this non-issue.
@Me (#66) – Aww, the doctor wouldn’t let me watch my husband’s vasectomy.
@Lameness: After what I did to bring our 2 children into this world, the chemicals etc I had ingested, injected and inserted to prevent children between child one and child two, I had done enough. I told him it was his turn. So yeah enough was enough. He had it done and he is no worse for wear. And really I stand by what and what is done is done. The kid is no worse for wear anymore then his Dad is.
@cunninglinguist: It was both awesome and horrifying. I saw things that you can never unsee. The puffs of smoke that came up as the doctor cauterized his pipes was kind of cool/as was the look of horror on my husbands face when he saw them wafting off his balls.
BTW half the people brow beating me about this probably dont have sons and they can say all the want but if wifey wants j.r snipped they will probably go along with her choice. I wanted my son done but left the final decision to my hubby.
How long can you wash your sons penis before it gets creepy? Besides being clean is only one of the reasons. I didnt get him snipped for that reason alone and frankly Im done talking penis on here. Unless someone wants to email pics of thier penis and then we can talk about that.
Yes once we find the women we tend to clean ourselves up in hope that we may get laid. Amen!
Seriously it is not up to people to judge you for getting your son the snip. I am guessing that you would have done some research prior to getting it done, so you would have been aware of most medical complications etc. Seriously if i has a choice i would have had mine done when i was younger. No conscious pain. Anyway, Me, fuck the close minded haters. DO what i do. Smile, nod, and don’t listen to a word they say.
I dont get why that the are so pissed over this. Really I think some people need to chill the fuck out. And it doesnt bother me anyhow. Its not like I can crazy glue it back on. And I did discuss it with my doctor and husband for pretty much my whole pregnancy. I didnt have a boy and then rub my hands in anticipation of getting his foreskin lopped off. It was one of the hardest things I had to sit through. I thought he was yelling in pain. He was yelling cause he was hungry. His doodle was sooo numb he had no pain at all. He ate his bottle and while doing it looked at me and yelled and then looked at his dad and yelled. It was almost like he was giving us shit for disturbing his schedule. And really I do think half of them hating dont have kids and can only speak for what they want. Their partner may have a different idea.
my point exactly. the haters think it is something you have done for pleasure. they dont realise how hard it is on the parents as well. fuck them. you, your husband and your doctor (the person having studied human physiology for years on end) have made the right decision for your family. Fuck the people who dont agree.
Svetlana ~ You just said you want to lessen a guys pleasure in order to prolong your own? Um, wow that sounds really freaking selfish.
My guy is uncircumcised, he has no problem lasting and his hygiene is impeccable. Seriously, it’s not usually necessary to remove the foreskin (though there are some cases in which it is). Female genitalia contains all sorts of folds as well. If you learn how to wash properly and regularly, this whole hygiene argument is bs. It’s NATURAL for a guy to have foreskin.